Is DragonCon Founder Ed Kramer the Sandusky of Sci-Fi? Or “Why Dave Dorman is Still Boycotting DragonCon: Part 2”

Dear Friends,

Once again, more information comes to light, in the form of an ATLANTA magazine expose’,  which underscores why I won’t be attending or associated in any way with DragonCon, until I know without question that alleged pedophile Ed Kramer is no longer benefiting financially in any way from the show. Sure, I could be earning good money at that show, but I cannot do so and sleep well at night. If any other shows I attend get tied to the same allegations, I will be boycotting those as well. As the dad of a young son, nothing turns my stomach more than this. There is a special place in hell for those who prey on the vulnerable who cannot defend or speak for themselves – the young, the elderly, the disabled, animals.

This article in Atlanta magazine was thoroughly and painstakingly researched by journalist Scott Henry. It is a long, sad and convoluted tale that required of Scott Henry much unraveling to get to the truth of the matter. You will be shocked by what you read here, and I suggest that you take the time to do so. There’s also this article on, in an article “DragonCon: Does Your Ticket Money Go to An Accused Pedophile?”, from which I quote:

And Mr. Henry reports that the revenue from the for-profit DragonCon (Comic Con International is non-profit) is unreported, and part of that money generated from ticket sales went to Mr. Kramer as recently as last year. He reports:

(Kramer) eventually received dividends for 2009 and 2010—although he won’t say how much Kramer received for those or previous years—but was forced to file the second suit last year in an effort to collect his 2011 dividend of $154,000.

And The Atlanta Magazine’s Mr. Henry also informs that Mr. Kramer became a millionaire from DragonCon, but while DragonCon Cofounder Pat Henry has taken to Facebook to say that Mr. Kramer had no ‘involvement’ with DragonCon since 2000, the Atlanta Magazine’s account paints Pat Henry as being less than truthful. Mr. Kramer’s collection of his stock dividend from his share of DragonCon ownership (said to be about one-third of the organization) indicates that he certainly had some involvement in its operation, if only to make sure he collected his money.

So, if you attended DragonCon in the past, a percentage of what you paid went to Mr. Ed Kramer, an alleged, but not as of this writing convicted, child predator who sits in jail awaiting extradition to Georgia.

The unanswered question is will Mr. Kramer be able to collect his share of revenue this year? If so, that means part of your 2012 DragonCon ticket money will go to Ed Kramer, and its more than likely that the dollars will be used in his legal defense.

I only hope that one day, those who chose without having the facts to vilify my friend Nancy Collins  (who fought the good fight for years) will apologize to her.


8 Responses to “Is DragonCon Founder Ed Kramer the Sandusky of Sci-Fi? Or “Why Dave Dorman is Still Boycotting DragonCon: Part 2””

  1. Nancy A. Collins Says:

    Thanks for the shout-out, Dave. But I’m not holding my breath on those apologies. And to all of you reading this on your i/smart phone at DragonCon–congratulations on helping to keep the victims of a serial child molester from seeing justice for 12 years and counting!

    • Nancy, I’m sorry to hear people treated you that way. I’ve been on the receiving end of that kind of shaming before, for calling someone out for abusive behavior, and was utterly shocked by the reception I got and the horrible things people said to me. However, not everyone who goes to Dragon*Con feels that way about you or has necessarily heard of your efforts. Please try not to paint us all with the same brush or shove the multiple threads of issues in this into an internet black and white thing. Shutting down the convention would result in a HUGE payout to Kramer, all at once.

      • Thanks, I appreciate that.

      • Buying out Ed Kramer would result in a huge payout. Shutting down the COn (which is probably not possible) would simply take money out of Ed Kramer’s pocket.

        It doesn’t matter how nice you are, if you go to DragonCon you are putting money in Ed Kramer’s pocket and helping to support him in his perversion of the justice system. I’m sure you can live with yourself but I’m not sure how.

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  3. Dave, I’ve met you a couple of times at other conventions and appreciate your work. 🙂 I respect your opinion on this and wanted to thank you for the way you’ve put it. Quite a few people are demonizing everyone who attends or works with the convention and it’s heartening to see someone who’s thought it through, made his decision, but doesn’t kick everyone else into the gutter for theirs.

    I sincerely hope that Kramer’s extradition means his trial is FINALLY going to actually HAPPEN. These kind of accusations can ruin a man’s life, but his behavior since then hardly speaks to innocence. Maybe then the rest of Dragon*Con’s board can force Kramer out as a shareholder in a defamation suit or something.

  4. I agree with her moral outrage, but WTF else is DragonCon supposed to do? They kicked him off the board. He’s not associated with the con any more. It’s over. But Nancy Collins is upset that they’re still sending him shareholder checks. It must be nice for her to demand they do something that’s LEGALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

    1. They can’t refuse to pay him his shares. He’s legally entitled to them.

    2. They can’t dissolve the corporation and reform as a new one, because in Georgia, doing so requires consent from the shareholders (including Kramer).

    3. They can’t even TALK about Kramer and what a scumbag he is, because he’s suing them, and that’d play right into his case.

    Like I said, I get why she’s angry, but everything on her “list of demands” is either (A) something that DragonCon already did — most of them a while ago — or (B) something they can’t legally do.

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